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Topic: Apple MacBook Pro
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NHPolygraph Member
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posted 03-25-2013 08:00 PM
My PC lap top is dying fast.. replacing it with an Apple MacBook Pro. Is there anyone running polygraphs with Macs and more specifically Lafayette??? Does the the software have compatibility with MACS??? Thank You, Mark IP: Logged |
rnelson Member
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posted 03-25-2013 08:53 PM
The LXSoftware is not itself compatible with the Mac OS, but a number of people are using the LXSoftware on Mac computers via dual boot methods or through a virtual machine.I use a VM (Oracle VirtualBox) for testing. My Toshiba ultrabook recently went up in smoke after a little more than a year (normal for me 'cause I am hard on computers). Replaced it with a new machine - not fun re-installing all my things. Windoze 8 is far from pleasant as Microsoft is more interested in forcing us spend our time mousing and clicking around and trying to remember how to accomplish anything, instead of focusing on getting our work done. Biggest problem is that it locks up a lot and programs seem to stop responding quite frequently. So I am running XP in a VM on Win 8 just to get my work done. With a VM on your Mac you can run any version of Windows you like. I'd suggest stay with either XP or 7 if you can. But the LXSoftware does work well with 8 or any version you have. I've run field exams on the Win 8 machine (not the VM) with no problems - and recently saw the LXSoftware running just fine and fast on a couple tiny netbooks that were so small they made my eyes hurt to see the details. .02 r ------------------ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room." --(Stanley Kubrick/Peter Sellers - Dr. Strangelove, 1964)
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Bill2E Member
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posted 03-26-2013 12:06 AM
NHPolygraph, I have a Mac and the program you need is at your Apple Applications store. It partitions your hard drive and you install the Windows program on the hard drive and boot into it rather than into the Apple program. Works well and you don't have to go to anyone to install it, it is actually quite simple. None of the Polygraph Manufactures have a program that works with Apple or Mac. IP: Logged |
Ted Todd Member
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posted 03-26-2013 05:06 PM
I just taught at a polygraph school where several people were using Macs with the Lafayette program and no complaints. I do not use Mac so I don't know how they were doing it. I just know they were and were not having any problems. TedIP: Logged |
NHPolygraph Member
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posted 03-27-2013 09:03 AM
Thank you all! I did end up getting a Macbook Pro and will be uploading the windows/poly software ASAP! Hard to believe they don't make the software Mac compatable. IP: Logged |
rnelson Member
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posted 03-27-2013 09:43 AM
I am not a programmer, but from what little I known it is easier today than in the past to develop software that is cross-platform.However, it requires planning in advance to do this easily - including selecting a programming language for which compilers and tool-sets (buttons and dialogs etc.) exist for each platform. It also requires a language for which libraries exist to do all the kinds of tasks we want to accomplish - for example: plot controls to display the data, .pdf converters, CD burning tools etc, audio/video recording tools. Otherwise programmers will have to develop these solutions themselves for each platform and the software will inevitably be different because problems get solved in different ways in different environments - and the result is two different software products. Perhaps I am wrong, but it appears to me that most polygraph software development was either begun before Mac computers had become popular outside the realm of graphic and music production. And, a lot of tool-sets and code libraries exist for Win-doze. The result has been that polygraph software seems to have been built with tool-sets and libraries specific to Windoze - such as MFC and .NET. Because polygraph software today is mature and complex - with lots of features and capabilities that have been developed over a period of 10 to 20 years - it will probably require some effort to re-code and re-compile effective stable software products that are cross-platform. Polygraph is actually a small niche market. In contrast, Microsoft - which has a much larger market, and also charges a lot of money for their software licences - has the personnel to re-invent (and re-license) their software every few years. The result is interesting, but also frustrating to us because new software brings new headaches (Windows 8). Others can chime in if I am wrong, but I believe the situation of software being somewhat built around Windows tool-sets and Windows libraries is shared among all the different instruments. The other option is to develop and support completely different versions of the software for different platforms. This would effectively double the expense of software development and support - a major expense (and most polygraph software is free to people who purchase the instruments). So, it is possible to liberate the software from Windows, but it would require commitment effort, and of course the universal constants (time and money). .02 r ------------------ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room." --(Stanley Kubrick/Peter Sellers - Dr. Strangelove, 1964)
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NHPolygraph Member
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posted 03-27-2013 11:20 AM
Important thing is, I'm able to make it work. I already love the Mac!IP: Logged |
skipwebb Member
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posted 03-27-2013 01:42 PM
Next thing you know, someone will want to run their polygraph on an Android tablet operating system!Apple brand notebooks just rose slightly over 10.6% of the US market last quarter, That means about 90% of notebook computers run on Windows operating systems. If I were developing new software, my efforts would certainly be geared towards the 90% share rather than the 10% share of the market. Creating apple OS versions of polygraph software would be like a company making floor mats for Yugos or Maserati cars. Not much of a market for the expense of development.
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NHPolygraph Member
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posted 03-27-2013 04:29 PM
Good thing that Apple made it all easy - two way street. Every bit of software I have ever purchased, aside from Windows is Mac/PC based. From simple games to extensive recording software... I doubt the expense is that daunting. IP: Logged |
NHPolygraph Member
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posted 03-27-2013 04:32 PM
The software for polygraph is not free.. it is supplied, as it should be, with the purchase of an instrument. Instruments as we all know are not cheap. I bet the mark up is huge. In terms of popularity.. is polygraph going to avoid making the software compatible with windows 8? IP: Logged |
NHPolygraph Member
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posted 03-27-2013 05:38 PM
CURIOUS: Is everything in this forum a philosophical disagreement an argument or an opportunity to take shots?? My question was simple; can polygraph work on MAC? Answer yes...My second question is why not just make the software that way?? The rest of the world does... not an unreasonable question is it? floor mats??? What kind of analogy is that? Was it necessary? Do we feel better as a profession finding ways to slam on each other? An android is a computer that can have apps(software downloaded) You should be able to use one if you so choose.. Thank you to those who helped me out and answered my questions! Much appreciated. Mark IP: Logged |
Ted Todd Member
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posted 03-27-2013 07:44 PM
Mark,Skip makes a very valid point in his "floor mats" statement. The technology will never come unless the market potential for a profit makes it worth the risk. Don't be so quick to drink from Dan's canteen. We are all in the same game here! Ted IP: Logged |
NHPolygraph Member
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posted 03-27-2013 09:27 PM
Please don't compare me to Dan.... There is no need for anyone to chime in and criticize anyone else's choice of equipment or computers... Macs are fine computers as are PCs. My point is: if all someone is going to add to anyone's question is criticism and negative remarks about what they do, then don't respond. I was looking for help and advice not wise cracks. IP: Logged |
NHPolygraph Member
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posted 03-27-2013 09:27 PM
Please don't compare me to Dan.... There is no need for anyone to chime in and criticize anyone else's choice of equipment or computers... Macs are fine computers as are PCs. My point is: if all someone is going to add to anyone's question is criticism and negative remarks about what they do, then don't respond. I was looking for help and advice not wise cracks. IP: Logged |
NHPolygraph Member
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posted 03-27-2013 09:27 PM
Please don't compare me to Dan.... There is no need for anyone to chime in and criticize anyone else's choice of equipment or computers... Macs are fine computers as are PCs. My point is: if all someone is going to add to anyone's question is criticism and negative remarks about what they do, then don't respond. I was looking for help and advice not wise cracks. IP: Logged |